Date: 11/6/99 1:55 PM Received: 11/8/99 9:40 AM From: Joseph Pilates Discussion Group, list@bodymind.net To: Joseph Pilates Discussion Group, list@bodymind.net http://www.bodymind.net Matwork, Exercises, and Equipment Developed by Joe/Clara Pilates This digest contains the following messages: 1. Re: programs & equipment 2. I am responding to the message about Pilates and pregnancy. I 3. RE: Re: Pilates workshop in Aspen Nov 19-21 4. equipment sizes 5. Re: programs & equipment 6. Re: Neutral spine 7. Re: Video for Chair 8. surgeries 9. Re: information for Spain 10. Re: programs & equipment -------------------- 1 -------------------- Date: Wed, 3 Nov 1999 23:02:36 EST From: PilatesJoe@aol.com Subject: Re: programs & equipment To J- Christopher, actually J, in regard to your question about Gratz's equipment, when your feet are on the foot bar you use your powerhouse to pull the carriage in not the resistance of the springs, if a newbie does not get it, then we take out 1 or 2 springs so they can feel there bottom, with Gratz equipment sometimes less is more. And also with Gratz, you work the apparatus, other equipment I have used, the apparatus works you, in other words the other will bring the carriage home. Also in regard to Gratz you flow nonstop from movement to movement so you can get your heartrate above RESTING and sweat a little bit. You know that New York style of Pilates. Joey Greco -------------------- 2 -------------------- Date: Thu, 04 Nov 1999 09:34:03 -0600 From: "SUZANNE ASHE" Subject: I am responding to the message about Pilates and pregnancy. I was pregnant in 97-98, was doing Pila I am responding to the message about Pilates and pregnancy. I was pregnant in 97-98, was doing Pilates at the time and did some research and talked to a few instructors about it. I am writing this from work, but I have an article at home that was helpful. I could provide the cite later or send a copy if you're interested. Just email me directly as a reminder. Basically, I remember it saying that Pilates was safe in early pregnancy (maybe up to 4 mos or so?). After that, the mat work and reformer involve too much time (and pressure) on your back. Plus, about that time, I think you will lose the abdominal awareness (ie, the scoop) you need to do Pilates effectively. One day, about midway through my pregnancy, I just couldn't do a roll up any more and decided it was time to stop. I took a ballet class for the reminder of my term which was great. Good luck. -------------------- 3 -------------------- Date: Mon, 18 Oct 1999 10:27:30 -0600 From: sue perley Subject: RE: Re: Pilates workshop in Aspen Nov 19-21 Hi Judd, We primarily sell the mat video by Current Concepts, 1-800-pilates, and the Mary Bischof videos. We think the Mary Bischof videos are great. We sell them primarily to students in our teacher training program. You can reach them at 800-406-4927. Regards, Sue >Date: Wed, 13 Oct 1999 16:57:21 -0600 >From: Sue Perley >Subject: Re: Pilates workshop in Aspen Nov 19-21 > >OK. Done. >By the way, you mentioned that you sell some video tapes that I don't think >I've seen and haven't mentioned on my new Videos page. Could you please >let me know the manufacturer's contact info so I can get in touch with them >about viewing them and then adding them to the Videos page at >http://www.bodymind.net/ >Thanks. >...................Judd > >Hi Judd, > >In additon to teacher training, Michele Larsson also offers advanced >workshops for Trainers. Our next workshop presently scheduled is "The >Mobile Spine" from July 22-23 at Momentum Studio (momentum-studio.com for >more info) in Santa Fe, NM. > >I think it's a great idea to post upcoming workshops. Thanks again for all >your efforts! > >Best regards, > >Sue Perley > > > > >>http://www.bodymind.net >>Matwork, Exercises, and Equipment Developed by Joe/Clara Pilates >> >> >>Date: Sat, 25 Sep 1999 19:51:53 EDT >>From: CChris9@aol.com >>Subject: Re: Pilates workshop in Aspen Nov 19-21 >> >>Judd: I think that it would be great to have a special page for Trainer >>Workshops..I've had to dig around to find out about them..or try to get on a >>mailing list. >> >>[From Judd: Sounds OK. Anyone else out there with info about such workshops, >>just write me. I'll post the info to begin with, but if I see that there >>are a number of >>them on a regular basis, I'll create a special page on the website and >>then just >>make occasional announcements to everyone when a new workshop joins the >>current set of upcoming such events...........] >> >> The Ron Fletcher Workshop does happen periodically around the >>West but it is happening in Aspen at the Aspen Club and Spa and is being >>given by Master Teacher, Kathy Corey who is the Director of the Ron Fletcher >>Work National Certification Program. >>It is November 19 - 21 from 9:30 - 12:30 pm Mat Work (public) and 1:30pm - >>4:30pm Equipment Work (Trainers or Advanced public). Interested people, >>Trainers or Pilates enthusiasts can contact me for information, costs, >>accommodations, itinerary,etc. >>And, again, I would LOVE a page about weekend Trainer Master Classes..I am >>trained through PhysicalMind but would love to attend a workshop in Boulder >>or a Stott Master Class, for example. Let me know how I can help or if we can >>get this workshop information out to everyone. Thanks, Caroline Christensen, >>Trainer, Aspen, CO >> >> >> >> >>To subscribe or unsubscribe, send a message to list@bodymind.net >>Individual messages: Set Subject = SUBSCRIBE (or UNSUBSCRIBE) >>Grouped messages: Set Subject = SUBSCRIBE DIGEST (or UNSUBSCRIBE DIGEST). >>__________________________________________________________________ -------------------- 4 -------------------- Date: Thu, 04 Nov 1999 21:59:20 GMT From: "Heather Low" Subject: equipment sizes For John Reid: Re. your question on whether there is a reformer good for smaller people. I haven't worked on all types of equipment (yet!) but of the ones that I have tried, only the Stott reformer allows a smaller person to achieve a reasonable degree of hip flexion, and thus a full range of movement, while performing footwork, etc. This is due to its potential to stop the carriage closer to (or farther away from, for someone taller - there are 5 carriage stop positions) the footbar, and to adjust the tension on the springs accordingly. This way, with exercises such as the elephant, you don't need to place blocks in front of the shoulder rests, or sticky mats under their feet just so that they are able to begin the exercise with the weight centered evenly between the arms and legs. That's been my experience; maybe others have experienced similar adjustability with other equipment. Heather Low Meridian Pilates Studio, Vancouver, BC ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com -------------------- 5 -------------------- Date: Thu, 4 Nov 1999 19:46:18 -0500 From: JHUME Subject: Re: programs & equipment Hello again Alycea.... To clarify your question about friction .... this would only be a factor in comparing two different systems where one has significant friction and the other doesn't --or-- in calibrating a system which has significant friction. In calibrating your Gratz reformer (because of significant friction I infer from reading the messages) you would have to take your measurements with, let's say, 150 pounds of weight on the platform to be able to measure how much energy (in lbs of pull per foot) it would take to move your carriage with a person of 150 pounds weight. As soon as you equalize the basis of your calibration to a given amount of pull (in lbs per foot) they will be precisely identical (as I said earlier). The Currently Concepts/Balanced Body reformer has virtually no friction and only the pull of the springs needs to be measured. By eliminating the friction factor we believe that this yields more variability and precision in assigning the amount of exertion we want the client to experience, particularly with rehab clients (as someone commented earlier). Concerning the issue of spring resistance we work with 5 springs of 3 different resistances on each reformer, 15lbs (quantity one), 20 lbs (quantity one or two), and 25 lbs (quantity two or three).... which we label green, blue and red respectively. This is the opposite notation of that of Balanced Body. We think it makes more sense that a light spring is green, the middle is blue and the heavy is red ... unless one is color-blind. We haven't had a need for more than a pull of 105 lbs at 2 feet. If that ever occurs I guess we'll add some heavier springs or more simply .. double up. I have difficulty translating the "feel" of one machine over another into the quality of the Pilates-based program. It may be like Basil is saying ... his analogy of a Mercedes and a BMW ... which is a buyer's choice issue and has nothing to do with one car getting you to your destination on time, safely, in comfort. Isn't it wonderful that we have choices??!! Good luck with your studio..... Jim James Hume ShapeShift Studio California -------------------- 6 -------------------- Date: Sat, 6 Nov 1999 00:02:57 +1300 From: "Maree" Subject: Re: Neutral spine I have recently started mat class with an new instructor, for years I have been taught that, when lying in supine with both feet on the mat, the pelvis should start in a neutral position, for any exercise when both feet are off the mat, the pelvis should be slightly posteriorly tilted so that the lower spine is "imprinted" ie. during the 100's, double and single leg stretches. Now the pelvis placement is different that a neutral pelvis is maintained these exercises and now have got totally confused, why are there different variations of the exercise? and which is correct???? would value your opinions. Maree -------------------- 7 -------------------- Date: Fri, 05 Nov 1999 07:50:19 -0500 From: "Lisa M. Johnson" Subject: Re: Video for Chair Hello, Actually, I just spoke with Stott about the videos this week. They have just shot 20 videos. I'm not quite sure of the breakdown but it's something like, essential (beginner), intermediate and advanced Cadillac, a separate line for the chair, the barrels, etc. They are documenting all of their exercises which reflect their instructor courses. They are targeting a December availability on at least some if not all of the videos. No word on pricing. I wasn't going to say anything, but I guess the word is already out so . . . I'm sure they'll mention on this e-mail list when they vids are ready for shipping. I'd also like to thank them for doing this, it will be an invaluable tool for instructors and instructors in training. Giving us a head start on our training and a way to review ourselves over time to make sure we're not straying to far in form. I've been working through Stott's instructor training in bits and pieces for the past year and have been truly satisfied with the density of the material they provide, the "post-rehab" element of the exercises, and their staff -- always professional, helpful, and just darn nice. Thanks guys, Lisa Johnson Joseph Pilates Discussion Group wrote: > http://www.bodymind.net > Matwork, Exercises, and Equipment Developed by Joe/Clara Pilates > > Date: Wed, 3 Nov 1999 15:55:14 -0800 (PST) > From: rachel rpbertson > Subject: Re: Video for Chair > > Janis, > > Stott Condditioning has just finished a video for the > essential, intermediate and advanced chair. I believe > they should be out before XMas or there abouts. > Phone: 1-800-910-0001. Give them a call and get the > skinny. > Rachel Robertson > > --- Joseph Pilates Discussion Group > wrote: > > http://www.bodymind.net > > Matwork, Exercises, and Equipment Developed by > > Joe/Clara Pilates > > > > > > Date: Sun, 24 Oct 1999 17:11:11 -0400 (EDT) > > From: janisl@mindspring.com (Janis Levine) > > Subject: Video for Chair > > > > Does anyone have a favorite video for beginning and > > intermediate chair > > exercises? I'm looking for a visual aid. > > > > Janis > > > > > > > > To subscribe or unsubscribe, send a message to > > list@bodymind.net > > Individual messages: Set Subject = SUBSCRIBE (or > > UNSUBSCRIBE) > > Grouped messages: Set Subject = SUBSCRIBE DIGEST (or > > UNSUBSCRIBE DIGEST). > > > __________________________________________________________________ > > > > > > ===== > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com > > To subscribe or unsubscribe, send a message to list@bodymind.net > Individual messages: Set Subject = SUBSCRIBE (or UNSUBSCRIBE) > Grouped messages: Set Subject = SUBSCRIBE DIGEST (or UNSUBSCRIBE DIGEST). > __________________________________________________________________ -------------------- 8 -------------------- Date: Fri, 5 Nov 1999 08:15:37 -0700 (MST) From: ant@bmol.com Subject: surgeries > I am also a physical therapy student. I want to work out, and need to start >swimming to strenghten my mucsles, but am very scared I will hurt myself >again. I was not in any type of accident, no one knows why this >happened. So, have you had any experience with this. I do not have >pain anymore. I want to get strong again, get in shape, but at the same >time not cause another injury. Please tell me if this sounds like a >good idea or not. Hi Christine, it seems interesting that you would have 2 back surgeries and no injuries to account for it.? had you had any falls, or strains? it sounds like the Pilates could really help you strengthen, and also as a pt student you know how surgeries can compromise the fascial system. You might go to the site http://www.vll.com/MFR to have a look to see how surgeries, traumas etc, affect the body, mind , spirit. and how you can find ways to strengthen and heal and maybe get more information on what happened. then there may be the nutritional aspect of this happening? have you seen anyone for nutritonal work? you seem to be very young 21 to be having had 2 surgeries with no cause? Antonia N. -------------------- 9 -------------------- Date: Fri, 05 Nov 1999 14:48:05 -0500 From: "J. Christopher Potts DPT" Subject: Re: information for Spain In my own literature search, I ran across nothing correlating Pilates specifically with scoliosis. Traditional western medical thinking is that exercise does not significantly affect scoliosis, and that one does not want to promote increased flexibility in spines with scoliosis. My own anecdotal experience, both on myself (I have a mild s-curve secondary a short right leg) and clients is that regular exercise (such as a modern dance class) and specifically Pilates helps quite a bit, and can sometimes arrest progressive scoliosis. I know of one Pilates teacher that no longer wears a brace prescribed by her physician since starting Pilates. You might be able to find some research on abdominal stabilisation and scoliosis, and then draw some initial hypotheses regarding the effects of Pilates as a form of abdominal stabilisation on scoliosis. Hope this helps somewhat. Joseph Pilates Discussion Group wrote: > http://www.bodymind.net > Matwork, Exercises, and Equipment Developed by Joe/Clara Pilates > > Date: Tue, 26 Oct 1999 03:58:22 +0200 > From: "M-G.Molero" > Subject: information for Spain > > I am a student of ostheopaty in Barcelona and are very interested in > knowing about the benefits of Pilates method for spine problems, > especially soclioses in both adult and children. Has anybody done any > scientifically profound research on the issue? To whom may I ask about > it? Thanks a lot for the information. Natalia > > To subscribe or unsubscribe, send a message to list@bodymind.net > Individual messages: Set Subject = SUBSCRIBE (or UNSUBSCRIBE) > Grouped messages: Set Subject = SUBSCRIBE DIGEST (or UNSUBSCRIBE DIGEST). > __________________________________________________________________ -------------------- 10 -------------------- Date: Fri, 05 Nov 1999 15:45:39 -0500 From: "J. Christopher Potts DPT" Subject: Re: programs & equipment I quite agree about the mat work, I repeatedly tell my clients that the advanced mat work is more challenging than the advanced machine work--its just you and gravity, not props, no springs no straps no support but your center. I am suggesting that the Gratz equipment (as Alycea confirms) has BUILT-IN resistance secondary to inferior casters. Of course you can adjust the springs on Gratz equipment (and I have used alot of Gratz equipment in the past), but you cannot adjust the BUILT-IN resistance--you can not reduce it or increase it as desired, it is always there. Why is that? And why is it desirable to have resistance BUILT-IN to the equipment that is inherently not adjustable. I have had clients that were strong enough to do longstretches and the twist and other exercises on zero springs. On a Gratz machine they would always have that extra resistance, and would not get that extra challange from NO resistance in those exercises. For my therapeutic patients, I dont want to take that extra resistance ( and other undesirable features, in my opinion) into account, I want to be able to adjust all the factors to the patient in front of me. With Gratz equipment you cannot do this. Alycea and you confirm it. And also in my opinion, they do NOT ride like mercedes, more like a 60's era FORD F-150, rugged, but definitely not smooth. Joseph Pilates Discussion Group wrote: > http://www.bodymind.net > Matwork, Exercises, and Equipment Developed by Joe/Clara Pilates > > Date: Tue, 2 Nov 1999 19:48:26 EST > From: PilatesAB@aol.com > Subject: Re: programs & equipment > > Chris - > > >From one PT to another....clearly with the feet placed on the footbar as in > the footwork, you are performing closed chain exercises for the hamstrings > during the rebound home. As a Pilates teacher you are emphasizing the use of > the "powerhouse" during this pulling in. > > I would disagree that Pilates students find it necessary to "fight" with the > machine - just the opposite in fact, they are finally required to work, > rather than allow the machine to do the workout for them. Obviously, > decreasing or increasing the springs is as viable an option on a Gratz > machine as any other (although you seem to suggest otherwise), but the feel > of the machine is inherently different. > > Finally, it is my opinion that a clever teacher and/or therapist is never > restricted by equipment. Tribeca Bodyworks employs 12 instructors, 2 > physical therapists and trains/treats over 300 clients per week. It has been > my experience that very often the best lessons given to Pilates students > require only the mat exercises which can be taken home while the best therapy > given to patients consist of manual work, a strong focus on patient education > and a good HEP (home exercise program). > > After all, if you give a man a fish you feed him for a day, but if you teach > him to fish you feed him for a lifetime.... > > To me, this is what Pilates is really all about.... > > To subscribe or unsubscribe, send a message to list@bodymind.net > Individual messages: Set Subject = SUBSCRIBE (or UNSUBSCRIBE) > Grouped messages: Set Subject = SUBSCRIBE DIGEST (or UNSUBSCRIBE DIGEST). > __________________________________________________________________ To subscribe or unsubscribe, send a message to list@bodymind.net Individual messages: Set Subject = SUBSCRIBE (or UNSUBSCRIBE) Grouped messages: Set Subject = SUBSCRIBE DIGEST (or UNSUBSCRIBE DIGEST). __________________________________________________________________ ----------------- End Forwarded Message -----------------