Date: 11/5/99 3:18 PM Received: 11/5/99 3:01 PM From: Joseph Pilates Discussion Group, list@bodymind.net To: Joseph Pilates Discussion Group, list@bodymind.net http://www.bodymind.net Matwork, Exercises, and Equipment Developed by Joe/Clara Pilates This digest contains the following messages: 1. Thank you from Novice Seeking Advice 2. TEACHER NEEDED IN PORTLAND,OR 3. Re: pilates/weight lifting 4. Re: reformers 5. Re: programs & equipment 6. Re: equipment differences 7. hand corrector 8. Re: Video for Chair 9. Re: pregnancy 10. Re: programs & equipment 11. Re: equipment differences 12. Re: programs & equipment 13. Re: Video for Chair -------------------- 1 -------------------- Date: Sun, 31 Oct 1999 19:58:53 -0400 From: "Peter Lucas" Subject: Thank you from Novice Seeking Advice I just returned from a lengthy trip to northern New Mexico to a full email box and many replies to my thoughts on Pilates v yoga breathing, etc. Thanks to all for the thoughtful replies. As I gradually "decompress" and reenter the east coast life, I will be digesting them thoroughly. I'm sure more questions will follow... While in Santa Fe, I looked into several Pilates studios and decided on taking some private instruction at Momentum Alternative Fitness, which is directed by Michelle Larson, a student of Eve Gentry. My instructor Celia was/is excellent: very clear and precise instruction with a very keen ability to observe her client. Studio very spacious. High desert air the best! Peter Lucas Baltimore, Maryland -------------------- 2 -------------------- Date: Sun, 31 Oct 1999 23:20:11 -0800 From: "shelly" Subject: TEACHER NEEDED IN PORTLAND,OR Busy and expanding studio in NW Portland, Oregon, needs part time teacher. Call (503) 248 4483 and ask for Shelly or Kristin. -------------------- 3 -------------------- Date: Tue, 2 Nov 1999 18:14:48 EST From: Sternother@aol.com Subject: Re: pilates/weight lifting Exactly. A single HIT weight lifting sesssion a week with stretching and Pilates can definitely complement each other. -------------------- 4 -------------------- Date: Tue, 2 Nov 1999 19:39:06 EST From: ASund61048@aol.com Subject: Re: reformers we are selling a progressive dynamics fully loaded professional machine for $1600. It has a drop in table and is in perfect condition. please call 480-991-8811 for more details. it has five springs. 3 heavy, 2 lite and jump board and standing boards -------------------- 5 -------------------- Date: Tue, 2 Nov 1999 19:48:26 EST From: PilatesAB@aol.com Subject: Re: programs & equipment Chris - >From one PT to another....clearly with the feet placed on the footbar as in the footwork, you are performing closed chain exercises for the hamstrings during the rebound home. As a Pilates teacher you are emphasizing the use of the "powerhouse" during this pulling in. I would disagree that Pilates students find it necessary to "fight" with the machine - just the opposite in fact, they are finally required to work, rather than allow the machine to do the workout for them. Obviously, decreasing or increasing the springs is as viable an option on a Gratz machine as any other (although you seem to suggest otherwise), but the feel of the machine is inherently different. Finally, it is my opinion that a clever teacher and/or therapist is never restricted by equipment. Tribeca Bodyworks employs 12 instructors, 2 physical therapists and trains/treats over 300 clients per week. It has been my experience that very often the best lessons given to Pilates students require only the mat exercises which can be taken home while the best therapy given to patients consist of manual work, a strong focus on patient education and a good HEP (home exercise program). After all, if you give a man a fish you feed him for a day, but if you teach him to fish you feed him for a lifetime.... To me, this is what Pilates is really all about.... -------------------- 6 -------------------- Date: Wed, 3 Nov 1999 00:48:56 EST From: Kvpbody@aol.com Subject: Re: equipment differences I agree with E. Gillies. I have been teaching Pilates for a number of years; am certified in the NYC Pilates Method of Body Conditioning ( Romana), Physical Mind, Polster and Stott. I've benefitted and learned from all of the above. I have equipment from Current Concepts (balanced body), Progressive Body and Stott. I'm happy with all the equipment, although I do have preferences from each company. Overall, they all make quality products. I did not choose to buy from Grotz, although i agree with Tribeca that the Grotz are designed for a challenging workout. I also know that not all the people I see are ready for that kind or workout and/ot want it. My initial training was only on Grotz. I do appreciate the machine's dimensions. I also know that there are many ways to appraoch the teaching of Pilates and everying or anyone who is smalrt, hardworking, passtionate will do well. No matter what the equipment. kathryn van patten boston bodyworks studio -------------------- 7 -------------------- Date: Wed, 3 Nov 1999 14:16:38 -0500 From: "warren miles" Subject: hand corrector does anyone know who is building hand correctors? -------------------- 8 -------------------- Date: Wed, 3 Nov 1999 15:55:14 -0800 (PST) From: rachel rpbertson Subject: Re: Video for Chair Janis, Stott Condditioning has just finished a video for the essential, intermediate and advanced chair. I believe they should be out before XMas or there abouts. Phone: 1-800-910-0001. Give them a call and get the skinny. Rachel Robertson --- Joseph Pilates Discussion Group wrote: > http://www.bodymind.net > Matwork, Exercises, and Equipment Developed by > Joe/Clara Pilates > > > Date: Sun, 24 Oct 1999 17:11:11 -0400 (EDT) > From: janisl@mindspring.com (Janis Levine) > Subject: Video for Chair > > Does anyone have a favorite video for beginning and > intermediate chair > exercises? I'm looking for a visual aid. > > Janis > > > > To subscribe or unsubscribe, send a message to > list@bodymind.net > Individual messages: Set Subject = SUBSCRIBE (or > UNSUBSCRIBE) > Grouped messages: Set Subject = SUBSCRIBE DIGEST (or > UNSUBSCRIBE DIGEST). > __________________________________________________________________ > > ===== __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com -------------------- 9 -------------------- Date: Wed, 03 Nov 1999 16:36:09 -0800 From: Lisa and Dave Pedersen Subject: Re: pregnancy Hello- I practiced Pilates throughout my pregnancy, and at the end modified some of the techniques. I never stayed on my back for longer than 10 minutes at a time. It would have been less if I felt like I experienced shortness of breath. On the reformer, I actually would lie on my side to do foot/ankle work. Basically, I did what my body felt like it could do. Balance is another issue to watch for. I only did standing work on the reformer if someone was spotting me. My doctor commented on how strong I was during the labor, and post delivery also said my "pelvic floor muscles" seemed as though a baby never even went through the canal!!!! Lisa Pederesen Joseph Pilates Discussion Group wrote: > http://www.bodymind.net > Matwork, Exercises, and Equipment Developed by Joe/Clara Pilates > > Date: Fri, 29 Oct 1999 08:12:28 -0400 > From: Charles > Subject: pregnancy > > Thank you for a very informative website. Is matwork OK to practice > during pregnancy (if one has already been doing it) ? If so, during what > stages is it relatively unsafe to practice? > > To subscribe or unsubscribe, send a message to list@bodymind.net > Individual messages: Set Subject = SUBSCRIBE (or UNSUBSCRIBE) > Grouped messages: Set Subject = SUBSCRIBE DIGEST (or UNSUBSCRIBE DIGEST). > __________________________________________________________________ -------------------- 10 -------------------- Date: Wed, 3 Nov 1999 20:14:49 EST From: PilatesAB@aol.com Subject: Re: programs & equipment Hello James, I was delighted to read that your company has chosen to measure the resistance provided by the machine in such a precise manner. However as an engineer with a physics background you must concede that factors such as friction are most definately relevent. Friction is just another force acting on the system and must be considered, don't you agree?? In this case, the friction provides resistence to the carriage being pulled IN to it's resting position as well as on the way out. To my knowledge, no other reformer provides this and I am confident that any accurate measurements would yield values to support this. If your company would be interested in conducting such research, I would be happy to contribute my studio and the use of my equipment. Looking over my prior response, I realize that I forgot to mention that the springs on a Gratz machine are clearly from a different manufacturer and my guess is that they provide a greater resistance than those employed by other companies. I understand from your response that you have never seen a Gratz machine. I trust that you would find it a completely different "feel" than other reformers. You need not be an experiened Pilates practitioner to notice the difference. The fact that all reformers are not created equal lends the Pilates world a plethora of choices. It is precisely this variety that makes for such an interesting discussion group as the one Judd and Linn have provided us with. Alycea Ungaro Tribeca Bodyworks NewYork City -------------------- 11 -------------------- Date: Wed, 03 Nov 1999 21:06:53 -0400 From: "John Reid" Subject: Re: equipment differences I appreciate the balanced view of equipment differences and was especially interested in the comment that Current Concepts and Progressive Dynamics are good for tall persons. Are there particular reformer recommendations for shorter (i.e., 5'3" - 5'8" people, or doesn't it really matter? Thanks. ---------- >From: Joseph Pilates Discussion Group >To: Joseph Pilates Discussion Group >Subject: equipment differences >Date: Tue, Nov 2, 1999, 7:16 PM > >http://www.bodymind.net >Matwork, Exercises, and Equipment Developed by Joe/Clara Pilates > > >Date: Sat, 23 Oct 1999 21:43:12 -0400 >From: George Hooks >Subject: equipment differences > >I have been reading these e-mails for months now about the differences >and preferences of equipment and equipment companies. I have also been >teaching PILATES since 1989, ( a fraction of years compared to the >teachers that should be responding to all these e-mails ) and taught >on many different brands of Pilates based apparatus. At this point , I >am seeing OVER 200 students a week at our studio, and have 8 teachers >working under me. We see a variety of clients from >the professional dancer, to the 88 year old woman, to the severe >scoliosis patient. I must say that all of my teachers are in agreement >about equipment. >Depending on the client and physical goal you are looking for, each >manufacturer is good!! They have created beautiful machines with >precision to accommodate the needs of every client type . In our >opinion, and remember unless you can calibrate the physics of each piece >of apparatus with each body (because the physics of each machine >determines the workout).. this is all PERSONAL preference, like buying >a car, you buy based on your needs. If you have tall tight injured >clients you need the machines of current concepts, or progressive >dynamics they make great machines for all types( Im not saying they are >not good for in shape clients they are I have both,but.. if you have a >5ft. tall small in shape women these are not your best choice >for keeping these women challenged.. >We agree with the Tribecca bodyworks people, as far as a WORKOUT .. The >Gratz machines cannot be beat .The physics of his machines forces you >into your"powerhouse" like nobody else's, and the workmanship is >outstanding no matter what anyone else has said..the quality is like >buying a mercedes not just a cadillac-Ha , but.. If you are in a >teaching situation ( like a gym etc.where you have people that can not >find their power house( pelvic stabilization) ,and you are seeing a lot >of therapy cases, you need to have the machines current concepts makes >with larger carriages or you will have people injured with too much >compression on their spines,especially the sacrum(sometimes shoulder.) >Again this is just an opinion, but at least an experienced one! > >E. Gillies > > >To subscribe or unsubscribe, send a message to list@bodymind.net >Individual messages: Set Subject = SUBSCRIBE (or UNSUBSCRIBE) >Grouped messages: Set Subject = SUBSCRIBE DIGEST (or UNSUBSCRIBE DIGEST). >__________________________________________________________________ > > -------------------- 12 -------------------- Date: Wed, 03 Nov 1999 21:08:09 -0500 From: Basil Blecher Subject: Re: programs & equipment I would like to suggest to James Hume that he work out on a "Gratz" reformer so that he could then have a basis for understanding if the "feel" of this apparatus is significantly different from that of any of the other quality machines. Judging by all the reports that we receive, I have no doubt that he will find the experience useful, if not mind altering. As can only be expected, almost all the reports that get back to us from experienced instructors are highly favorable about the "feel" of our reformers and the consequent workout achieved, invariably making many of these instructors converts to our system, often after only one session on a "Gratz" machine. Without getting deeply into the technical issues, I would simply like to mention that the ride experienced in a Mercedes is totally different from the ride experienced in a BMW. I would guess that they both have a similar thrust and a similar mass, but the ride is definitely different. I would think that both these companies strive incredibly hard to maintain their distinct "feel" year by year as their models change. Likewise with our company. We have a wealth of technical expertise, going back 75 years, with several engineers on staff, and we continually exercise extreme care and diligence to maintain the "feel" that we were encouraged to develop for Joseph Pilates himself when we first started making equipment for him more than 35 years ago. I would gladly guide you to a studio convenient to your location where you can check out these issues. Basil Blecher Gratz Industries Inc. 718-361 7774 -------------------- 13 -------------------- Date: Wed, 3 Nov 1999 22:56:40 EST From: EBNANA@aol.com Subject: Re: Video for Chair Dear Janis, Physical mind has a video tape called "Colleen Glen's Wunda chair workout". It is a great tape and I use it for my own workouts as well as a teaching aid. It has two full workout sequences. Good luck! 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